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The ACLU Has Become “Caricature” of Left-Liberal Culture

The Democrats' hypocrisy and replacement of class struggle with toothless identity politics crippled a crucial organization.

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The ACLU Has Become “Caricature” of Left-Liberal Culture

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Premiered May 21, 2020
On this week's episode of System Update, Glenn Greenwald talks to journalist Vincent Bevins about his newly launched book, The Jakarta Method. The book examines the series of mass murder programs engineered by the CIA with the purported goal of fighting communism during the Cold War, and how the consequences of these programs shape the global order -- and U.S. politics -- to this day. Subscribe to our channel: https://interc.pt/subscribe


Summary

This episode of System Update hosted by Glenn Greenwald features an in-depth discussion with journalist Vincent Bevins about the brutal and violent history of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in the post-World War II era. Bevins, author of The Jakarta Method: Washington’s Anti-Communist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program That Shaped Our World, exposes the CIA’s role in orchestrating military coups, supporting murderous dictatorships, and running disinformation campaigns, primarily to suppress leftist movements and maintain U.S. geopolitical dominance. The conversation highlights how these covert operations were not isolated incidents but systemic, widespread, and shaped the modern global political order.

Bevins focuses heavily on Indonesia’s 1965 mass killings, where the CIA aided the military-backed slaughter of up to a million civilians—an event that became a blueprint for similar operations in Latin America and beyond. These atrocities were often justified under the guise of fighting communism, but many targeted leaders and movements were reformist or nationalist rather than loyal to Moscow. The discussion also reveals the complicity of mainstream U.S. media in suppressing the truth about these operations during the Cold War, as well as the bipartisan political support within the United States for these interventions.

The episode critiques the exaggerated American liberal narrative around Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, contrasting it with the far more violent and devastating covert actions the U.S. government has conducted globally. It argues that understanding this history is essential for grasping the current political landscape, confronting American exceptionalism, and reconsidering U.S. foreign policy and identity. The episode ends by emphasizing the importance of educating oneself on these suppressed histories to navigate the present and future more effectively.

Highlights

  • [00:06] Introduction to the brutal post-WWII history of the CIA and its global impact.
  • [10:05] The scale of CIA-backed violence in countries like Indonesia, Brazil, and Guatemala compared to minor Russian interference in 2016.
  • [27:12] ⚔️ Detailed account of the 1965 Indonesian mass killings and U.S. complicity.
  • [41:58] The CIA’s strategy of collaborating with military regimes to suppress leftist movements worldwide.
  • [55:52] ️ Continuity of CIA tactics and institutional culture from the Cold War to the present.
  • [01:03:04] The media’s role in suppressing truths about U.S. foreign interventions during the Cold War.
  • [01:22:38] Why Americans must confront and understand the true history of U.S. interventions to understand current global politics.

Key Insights

  • [02:01]  Ignorance and Propaganda Shape Political Perceptions: Greenwald explains how historical ignorance and deliberate propaganda obscure the true nature of U.S. foreign interventions, leading many Americans to misunderstand the scale and brutality of CIA operations. This ignorance also distorts how liberals respond to current political events, such as Russia Gate, by recycling Cold War rhetoric without understanding its origins or implications.
  • [10:40] ⚖️ Contextualizing Russian Interference vs. U.S. Covert Actions: The episode highlights the disproportionate American liberal outrage over Russian election interference compared to the far deadlier and more systemic CIA-backed coups and massacres. This illustrates American exceptionalism and selective moral outrage, where minor adversarial acts are treated as unprecedented threats, while U.S. global violence is normalized or ignored.
  • [33:00] ️ Indonesia as the Prototype of the “Jakarta Method”: Bevins details Indonesia’s 1965 massacre as a template for U.S.-backed anti-communist violence globally. This method involved mass killings and political repression disguised as anti-communism but often targeted moderate reformists or nationalist movements asserting independence from superpower influence. This systemic violence shaped decades of global political repression.
  • [40:28]  Mass Political Engagement by Leftist Movements: The Indonesian Communist Party’s success stemmed from broad societal engagement including peasants, women, and cultural programs. Their peaceful, democratic approach threatened Washington’s Cold War agenda, which preferred compliant authoritarian regimes over genuine democracy that might empower popular leftist forces.
  • [48:41] ️ U.S. Global Hegemony Rooted in Violent Repression: Bevins argues the U.S. post-WWII global order was not about defending democracy but about maintaining imperial dominance. The violent suppression of alternative political orders in the “third world” was central to this project, enabling the U.S. to enforce a capitalist, neoliberal world system favorable to its economic and geopolitical interests.
  • [01:03:04]  Mainstream Media as an Instrument of State Propaganda: Throughout the Cold War, leading U.S. media outlets routinely suppressed or distorted coverage of CIA covert operations, often collaborating with intelligence officials to maintain the official narrative. This relationship between media and state interests continues to influence public perception and limits critical engagement with U.S. foreign policy.
  • [01:14:10]  Bipartisan Support for Cold War Repression: Contrary to popular belief that Democrats opposed Cold War excesses, key Democratic presidents like Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson actively supported or escalated covert operations and military interventions. The bipartisan consensus prioritized anti-communism over human rights, reflecting systemic continuity rather than ideological opposition.

Extended Analysis

Vincent Bevins’ research exposes the deep contradictions and moral failures of U.S. Cold War foreign policy. The narrative that the U.S. fought a defensive war against an existential communist threat is debunked by documents revealing that many targeted regimes were neither communist nor aligned with Moscow, but rather independent left-leaning governments seeking reforms. The “Jakarta Method” exemplifies how the U.S. used extreme violence to crush these movements, effectively prioritizing geopolitical control over democracy or human rights.

The episode also provides a critical lens on contemporary political discourse, particularly the liberal fixation on Russian interference in the 2016 election. By contextualizing this interference against the backdrop of decades of CIA-backed violence, Greenwald and Bevins challenge American exceptionalism and call for a more nuanced, historically informed understanding of foreign interference and national security. The episode encourages skepticism toward simplified narratives and promotes a deeper engagement with history to better understand current global power dynamics.

Lastly, the discussion about the media’s complicity in shaping Cold War narratives highlights the challenges of uncovering and disseminating inconvenient truths. This historical media behavior parallels contemporary issues with disinformation, state propaganda, and the limits of journalistic independence in democratic societies. The episode serves as a call to critically evaluate official narratives, both past and present, and to actively seek out marginalized histories to foster a more accurate and just political understanding.

Conclusion

This conversation with Vincent Bevins offers a powerful, fact-based reassessment of U.S. Cold War history, revealing a legacy of violence and repression that continues to influence global politics and American identity today. Understanding this history is crucial not only for moral accountability but for critically engaging with the present and shaping a more informed and equitable future. The episode underscores the importance of confronting uncomfortable truths and challenges prevailing myths that obscure the realities of power, violence, and imperialism in modern history.

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