Alexander Mercouris, Senior Editor, The Duran
To be fair, but there is no friendship between nations, and those that believe it needs to stop watching cartoons and live in the real world. Each country is a psychopath that only looks after its own national interests, no countries has friends.
The only responsibility a state has is to its own people, not to other states, if one state finds it beneficial to its people to make agreements with another states they will do so, but if a better agreement comes up from another state, they will throw the previous state under the buss. There is no friendship between states, the state loyalty is to its own people. At least, a functional state, EU will often talk about “friendship” with USA, and then act as the USA state wants against the interests of the EU peoples, but this is not the behavior of a functional state, this is the behavior of a corrupt state, a functional state will dump any other state if a agreement that would more benefit its people would show up.
And this is what Putin would do, he is not friends with China. And China is not friends with him. They have a several mutual beneficial agreements and they are both under a common threat so they work together.
For example Russia has thrown Iran under the buss several times, when Russia allowed USA sanctions to put on Iran, when denying to sell Iran S-300 missiles after USA made them a better deal, despite Iran and Russia already having signed the agreement, Russia just threw Iran under the buss as if it was nothing, in this case, it was quite literal as well, as Iran desperately needed those missiles to ward off an attack from NATO that could have killed millions of Iranians, but Russia saw a better deal and left Iran in the dust.. Another example is that Russia constantly allows IAF to bomb Assad, when they could step in a anytime and put an end to it. But Russia and IAF has made a deal behind Assad’s back. In this scenario, Russia is like a friend that has agree that it is ok for certain people to beat up her friends when they want.. As I said, states has no friends only interests.
It is also worth to note that while China talks of “friendship” they barely do anything, Russia is fighting NATO in Syria, in Ukraine, in Donbas, in Crimea, and China is barely able to say a support word as Russia fights for her survival.
Wrong….you seem to think of a state as a person. Like somehow a state makes decisions. No…it is people in power who have a vested interest who make decisions under cover of a state. The State is their cover, excuse, and savior when they screw up, and the mechanism they will use to get the citizenry to pay for their mistakes. It’s no different than how corporations are used and how a corporation has somehow morphed into a person. Where a corporation can be charged with a crime but the people who made the corporations decisions are innocent. Don’t be fooled into thinking that those in power under cover of a state actually care about the citizenry…they do not..at all care. Not one bit. Human nature is such that sociopaths and psychopaths are those that rise to power…there is not a leader in all of history that did not fall under one or both. There has never been a leader who killed for his people….only for the leaders own self interest and the interests of those who keep him/her in power…..Period…..it’s just the way we as humans are wired.
Wrong! It’s just this belief that this is “the way we, humans, are wired,” that makes these things possible, and makes it possible for these things to regress further. A state really is like a person. The prevaling mores of each individual person and all the persons of the state make up the prevailing mores of the state. It works both ways. But a nation of fierce individualists and egoists will never get a government of angels who “care” for the people. A nation of insouciant, self-centred people gets a government that will manipulate these people unconscionably, while making sure they remain insouciant and self-centred. Etc. Ultimately it’s just like this popular adage goes: “everything depends on you.” It’s hackneyed but true
Generalized principles do not apply to statecraft, the ‘left’ constantly make such assertions about state policy as if it is uniform in every case. Much depends on the particulars of a state, there are obvious similarities & tendencies as there would be with any institution, but institutions of the same category – such as the family – differ in accordance with all the variables effecting them. So what motivates the government of Iran can not be said to be the same for the US, & then there are the internal divisions & factions. The Russia-China strategic partnership/alliance is a lot more than mere convenience or opportunism along the lines of my enemy’s enemy is my friend type of logic. It is clear that Russia & China share a vision of the world, they share a commitment to establishing a multipolar world order based on principles of adherence to international law. From that perspective, it can be said that theirs is a truly principled relationship, irrespective of all the cynical machiniations that both state’s governments are regularly hostage to. The Russian & Chinese leadership are obviously doing what they believe to be in the best interest of their respective societies, but it is clear that their mutual interest also happens to be harmonious & complimentary with the interests of the entire world at this point. That is how I would characterize it, it is not about holding hands & singling & dancing in a circle, but it can not be dismissed either as just momentary self-interest on the part of Russia & China to partner up at this time, because of the intensive pressure they are under from the West. Lavrov mentioned a post West world recently, well that world is not far off in the making & when it arrives we will see how the Russia-China strategic relationship evolves, that will be the test, when the external pressures are removed, will they continue on the same course? I believe they will, for the reason of shared long-term vision, China in particular has not short-term point of view, their perspective is always long-term.
Good comment Vor…….that’s how I see the Russian & Chinese relationship!
The Chinese know which way the winds are blowing. The idea that China, with all its aspirations which inevitably collide with American imperial resistance, would abandon Putin in this critical moment in history is fanciful to say the least.
Eurasia is a geopolitical certainty… the question for us all is how we will get there.
High speed trains. Chinese will build them. Even the Russians will build them.
Maybe Hyperloop.Sit back and travel the smooth Belts and Roads of Eurasia.
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Good. Trump had a chance to avoid this. He had the political capital to start phasing out and pulling back. He falsely promised that he would reduce our aggression.
He broke the promise, and now he deserves whatever happens next.
What little political capital he had (having lost the popular vote and being a figure of intense hatred by millions of crazed progressives) was lost when he allowed himself to be coerced by an endless barrage of Russophobic hysteria perpetuated by the lying scumbags in the mainstream media and their deep state puppet masters. He also surrounded himself with bottom feeders and neocons and lo and behold he now finds himself trapped in a cage of his own making. MAGA has become a joke, another footnote in the great book of broken promises and abandoned ideals.
Sad!