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DW—The discussion highlights the U.S. Empire of Chaos’s strategic despair given looming defeats, particularly the inability to militarily confront Russia or China directly. Instead, the U.S. focuses on proxy conflicts and regime change efforts in Latin America (notably Venezuela) and Africa (Mali), with growing influence from neoconservative factions pushing aggressive policies. The conversation analyzes how the imperial powers mix the “war on terror” with the “war on drugs” to justify extrajudicial actions and military interventions, reflecting a long-standing continuity in U.S. foreign policy regardless of administration changes.

THE GRAYZONE—The discussion reveals how migration issues exacerbated by U.S. sanctions and regional policies have contributed to the growth of criminal organizations controlling territories and extorting migrants, intensifying social and political chaos. Venezuelan migration saw a surge, particularly between 2015 and 2020, with many migrants fleeing through harsh routes like the Darien Gap, which eventually became a bargaining chip in U.S.–Venezuela negotiations. The U.S. migration policies—including Temporary Protected Status (TPS) granted in 2021—faced criticism for inadvertently facilitating criminal elements entering the U.S., who were then subject to harsh criminalization.

Key figures include Tulsi Gabbard, whose role in reshaping intelligence assessments about Venezuela’s gangs within the Trump administration is highlighted as politicizing and suppressing dissenting intelligence for justifying harsher U.S. measures, including deportation under the Alien Enemies Act. The re-emergence of stories about the Cartel de los Soles is traced back historically to the 1990s, shaped by U.S. intelligence narratives and often exaggerated or unsubstantiated in their connection to Maduro’s government.

SUMMARY—The discussion critiques Western policies, especially NATO’s eastward expansion after the Cold War, which the guest asserts provoked Russia and sparked the Ukraine conflict. The U.S. and Europe’s refusal to acknowledge Russia’s security concerns is highlighted as a major miscalculation. The guest also reflects on U.S. foreign policy’s emotional and ideological biases against Russia, which have overshadowed strategic interests.

Turning to the Middle East, the professor provides a historical and strategic overview of Israel’s policies toward Palestinians, labeling Israeli actions in Gaza as genocidal and part of a broader strategy of ethnic cleansing aimed at establishing a “Greater Israel.” He explores the profound influence of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy, arguing that U.S. support for Israel often contradicts American strategic and moral interests, driven largely by this lobby and certain religious groups such as Christian Zionists. The conversation also touches on the consequences of this relationship for U.S. domestic politics and international standing.

JULIAN MACFARLANE—The truth is, however, that the Russian forces are gearing up to take all of Russian-speaking Ukraine. Once the war moves into the steppe land west of the Dniepr, everything will accelerate. Already, the NeoNazi factions are competing for power, fighting over the rotten carcass of the Kiev regime.

As I said, the increased military budget for 2025 was always intended to be temporary, only for one year. With the West heading for economic recession, if not collapse, Russia also anticipates a reduction in oil prices. Back to horse & buggy days?

D. JOHNSTONE—Western media put all the blame for everything on the Serbs, evoking the inevitable Hitler analogy to describe Serbia’s besieged leader, Slobodan Milosevic, as a “dictator” and to liken his failing efforts to keep Yugoslavia together with the Third Reich’s massive invasion of the rest of Europe. 

“Heroic little Serbia” was transformed into the Pariah of the Western World.