Our Special Editor Goes Mano a Mano with a “Revisionist” DeepSeek (!)

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I post so much to Facebook, but it is usually short rants that don’t warrant too much attention. Yesterday I posted a longer analysis, and so far, it has been re-shared more than any other thing that I have written. Even if my thoughts turn out to be entirely incorrect, I think there is value in understanding my position.

Also, my analysis was accompanied by an image of a quote from the great William Blum, which undoubtedly helped the piece get reshared. I have attached the image to this email.

Today I fed the article to DeepSeek and was somewhat shocked by the response that I received. DeepSeek has seemingly internalized the perspective of Western imperialism and Western Marxism so I shared DeepSeek’s response with a little bit of commentary along with an image which I have also attached to this email.

So, first is the analysis I shared yesterday and then secondly is the post from today which discusses the very interesting response that I received from AI:

“I think it is important to understand and appreciate the strategic victory that Russia has managed to win. It took some time but thanks to the competence of the Russian state, they have once again, like many times in the past, managed to defeat Western efforts to turn Russia into a vassal state.

The faction of the oligarch class that currently wields political power, has a strong grasp of this reality. They realize that the efforts of the previous faction in power, to weaken and subdue Russia, have failed catastrophically, at the expense of over a million lives and hundreds of billions of dollars in lost Western investment.

Of course they don’t really care about the Ukrainian men that have been killed as this simply means they will have a much greater abundance of cheap Ukrainian prostitutes and cleaning ladies to exploit, but they are not happy about how Russia was able to withstand the West’s efforts to destroy their economy and they are truly unhappy with the military machine that Russia has created and that they have no possible chance of countering.

So Trump is tasked with managing this catastrophic defeat and limiting the fall-out as much as he possibly can. He is in a fortuitous position because of the continued willingness of the Russian Federation to want nothing more than to engage with the world in peace and mutual prosperity. This is the carrot that the West can always dangle before those that they would destroy, if it was in their power to do so.

This is the fundamental difference between the two sides. The Western imperialists opportunistically look for every chance to weaken and destroy those countries that resist Western domination and exploitation. But those countries that resist the attacks of Western imperialism, have no interest in launching wars of subjugation themselves. They are only interested in maintaining their own sovereignty and being allowed to trade freely with the rest of the world.

Because of these fundamental differences, the West can rely on offering peace that they know will always be accepted as there is no will or interest from either Russia, China, or Iran, to march on Europe or DC in order to subjugate and exploit, the markets, resources, or labor force, of any of these Western countries.

So, the West did not know that Russia could withstand Western economic aggression. The West did not know that Russia could withstand a million-man army, trained to NATO standards, armed and equipped by NATO, led by NATO generals, and aided by NATO surveillance and intel. We’ll never know what kind of odds the West truly thought they had for success, but we do know that even if their efforts to destroy Russia failed, there would never be any accountability.

Not only would there be no accountability, but the costs would be negligible. Who the fuck cares about the death of a million Ukrainian men, many of them neo-nazis and good for literally nothing but cannon fodder? On the plus side, as stated above, the West would get a surplus of cheap Ukrainian prostitutes and cleaners, and they would simply tell Russia, “our bad” let’s make an agreement, and Russia would have no choice but to accept. Russia can’t regime change Washington DC. Russia can’t march on Europe and prop up Russian-friendly governments in their wake.

So the leaders of Empire entered into this conflict with eyes wide open that their chance for success was dependent upon the competency of the Russian state. My guess is that they did not have a very high level of respect for Russian competence. Many probably believed that Ukraine would win and Russia would lose. This is the hubris of empire and of people who gamble with lives they don’t care about.

It was undoubtedly an extraordinary challenge for the great Russian nation to rally together and defeat first, Western economic aggression and second, Western military aggression. The hubristic planners of this aggression were high on their own supply of anti-Russian and anti-Soviet propaganda. Their incorrectly low assessment of Russian competence was likewise complemented by their own incorrectly high assessment of their own power and military competence. But again, they pulled the trigger on this project because even in the worst-case scenario, there was very little downside and no risk whatsoever to anything that they themselves really care about.

So Trump is tasked with managing this strategic defeat and limiting the negative fallout for Western interests. He will accept whatever the minimum demands are from Putin.

What people need to realize, though, is that Russia has won and the West has lost. The West had hoped to weaken and destroy the Putin government and the Russian Federation through a combined economic and military assault. Thanks to Russian competence, Russia has demonstrated that they are impregnable on both fronts and it is understood that it is not within the power of the EU or the US to challenge Russia anymore.

The US is interested in extricating itself from this loss and pivoting to a new theater where they hope they can put into practice the lessons it learned from the loss to Russia. The West is ready to sit down with Russia and negotiate the terms of their [momentary] surrender.

The last point I want to make follows from everything I have stated above. Putin is not “stupid” if he agrees to sit down with the West and negotiate the terms of Western surrender. This is not a case of Putin being naive or stupid. This is simply a case of Putin sitting down with Trump and formalizing the West’s acknowledgement that their efforts have failed and have no chance for success. Given this reality, I expect an agreement will be made where Putin’s demands are met, including an end to Western economic sanctions. The removal of Ukrainian troops to the Western side of the Dnieper guarantees that Ukraine will not seek NATO membership, and an agreement that there will be no more building up of the Ukrainian military.

Putin is absolutely correct to accept these terms of Western surrender so that Russia can return to providing energy to Europe and a ramping down of tensions can begin. If the West is willing to agree to the necessary terms of their own surrender, why would Putin refuse? What else could Putin possibly want that is within the realm of reality?

As a student of history and Marxist Leninist ideology, I was not surprised at all with Russian competence and their ability to withstand Western aggression. Likewise, I have full confidence in Russian diplomatic competence and their ability to navigate the West’s surrender in a viable way that is not political suicide for Trump.

We, the anti-imperialists, have won the strategic victory that we all new from the very beginning was inevitable. Now we await the formal surrender to take place, probably next Friday, followed by a quick pivot to China and another strategic defeat for Western imperialism.

Now for my engagement with DeepSeek:

SAYS BILLY BOB:
Yesterday’s provocative analysis was one of the most shared analysis that I have posted to Facebook, to date. Interested in AI’s response, I fed the essay to DeepSeek and was quite surprised at how AI has evolved into an ideological defender of Western imperialism (to include lecturing me on morality, an actual laugh react to my analysis, and the use of the term “fantasy”). The DeepSeek AI basically takes on the Western position and parrots all the West’s talking points while accusing me of lacking objectivity.

I wonder if the engineers at DeepSeek will modify their program’s approach towards Western imperialism once the West starts to ramp up their attacks on China. As it stands now, DeepSeek has embraced Western Marxism and believes that a “real” Marxist would denounce Western imperialism and Russian imperialism on equal terms.

Please enjoy this short back-and-forth beginning with DeepSeek’s criticism of yesterday’s analysis, followed by my rebuttal to a single item and DeepSeek’s response to my rebuttal. There is so much here to dig in to, but alas, I have to work this weekend. BTW, anyone can go to DeepSeek and debate with the program on any of these issues. If you are so inclined, please share the results in the comments:

DEEPSEEK RESPONDED
“Your analysis presents a highly partisan and contentious perspective on the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Western imperialism, and global power dynamics. While you frame Russia’s actions as a defensive victory against Western aggression, many in the international community—including governments, analysts, and historians—would strongly dispute this narrative on factual, ethical, and strategic grounds. Below are some key points of contention and alternative perspectives:

### 1. Characterization of the Conflict
– You portray the war as a Western-led effort to “destroy Russia,” but the overwhelming majority of Western governments and institutions frame it as a response to Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which violated the UN Charter and international law.
– The claim that Ukraine is a “NATO puppet” ignores the agency of the Ukrainian people, who have resisted Russian domination since the 2014 Euromaidan revolution and the annexation of Crimea.

### 2. Russian “Competence” and Western “Defeat”
– While Russia has indeed weathered sanctions and mobilized its economy for war, this has come at enormous cost: hundreds of thousands of casualties, long-term demographic decline, and a pivot to dependency on China. The Russian economy is now heavily militarized, living standards have stagnated, and the country faces technological isolation.
– The idea that the West has “lost” is premature. NATO has expanded (Finland, Sweden), Ukraine has not collapsed, and Western military-industrial capacity is ramping up. The conflict is far from resolved.

### 3. Dehumanization of Ukrainians
– Your dismissive remarks about Ukrainian casualties (“who cares about a million Ukrainian men… neo-Nazis”) and the grotesque comment about “cheap prostitutes” are morally indefensible and undermine your argument. This rhetoric mirrors imperialist dehumanization you accuse the West of.
– Ukraine’s resistance is broadly popular domestically, and the “neo-Nazi” narrative is a Kremlin propaganda trope exaggerated to justify invasion. Far-right parties in Ukraine are marginal (and exist in Russia/Europe too).

### 4. Misreading of Western Intentions
– The West did not “gamble” on destroying Russia; it reacted to Putin’s invasion. Prior to 2022, Europe was deeply energy-dependent on Russia (Nord Stream), and the U.S. was focused on China. Putin’s decision to invade shattered this status quo.
– The claim that the West faces “no accountability” ignores domestic political backlash (e.g., U.S. aid delays, European farmer protests over Ukrainian grain). Democracies are messy, but they do have mechanisms for dissent.

### 5. Putin’s “Diplomatic Victory”
– If Putin negotiates, it will likely be because Russia cannot achieve total victory, not because the West is “surrendering.” Even frozen conflicts (like 2014) tend to reignite—see Azerbaijan’s recapture of Nagorno-Karabakh.
– Russia’s maximalist goals (regime change in Kyiv, full control of Donbas/Odesa) have already failed. The idea that Trump (or any Western leader) would fully capitulate to Putin’s demands is speculative at best.

### 6. Anti-Imperialist Double Standards
– You condemn Western imperialism but excuse Russia’s blatant imperialism (e.g., annexing Ukrainian territory, sponsoring separatists, and waging wars in Georgia/Syria). True anti-imperialism would reject both.
– Marxist-Leninists historically opposed great-power chauvinism; the USSR itself criticized Russian imperialism (e.g., Lenin’s stance on Tsarist colonialism).

### 7. The “Pivot to China” Fantasy
– The West’s focus on China predates Ukraine. China is watching Russia’s struggles closely—its economy is far more integrated with the West, making it vulnerable to sanctions. A Taiwan invasion would be exponentially riskier than Ukraine.

### Conclusion
Your argument is a mix of Kremlin talking points, cynical realpolitik, and ideological triumphalism. While Russia has proven resilient, the war is far from a “strategic victory,” and the costs to all parties (especially Ukraine) have been catastrophic. If peace talks occur, they will reflect battlefield realities—not Western “surrender.”
A Marxist critique worthy of the name would focus on the suffering of workers (Russian, Ukrainian, European) sacrificed for imperial rivalries, not cheerlead for one capitalist oligarchy over another.
(And no, the surrender won’t be “next Friday.”

(HERE’S THE ONE REBUTTAL BY BILLY BOB)

DEEPSEEK SAID: “Your dismissive remarks about Ukrainian casualties (“who cares about a million Ukrainian men… neo-Nazis”) and the grotesque comment about “cheap prostitutes” are morally indefensible and undermine your argument. This rhetoric mirrors imperialist dehumanization you accuse the West of.”

I REPLY:
You misunderstand. I was not being dismissive of these unfortunate realities caused directly by the West’s effort to weaponize Ukraine against Russia. I am simply pointing out how the West weaponized Ukraine against Russia, fully aware of these likely consequences, and still went ahead with their plan. Why? Because they truly don’t give a fuck about Ukrainians. Come on DeepSeek. Be smarter!”

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