September 2025

FRED REED—‘People of different sorts seldom want to live together.”  When forced to do so, the results often are suboptimal, such as mass murder. For example  Protestants and Catholics in Ireland, Hutus and Tutsis in Burundi, Israelis and Palestinians in Palestine, Chinese and Indonesians in Jakarta, Shias and Sunnis in many places, Moslem and Hindus in India, Jews and almost everybody almost everywhere, blacks and whites and Latinos in America, Sinhalese and Tamils in Sri Lanka, Anglophones and Franco phones in Canada, and Muslims and Thais in southern Thailand. The list could be extended.

PG—This extensive discussion centers on the complex geopolitical dynamics shaping the current global order, particularly focusing on China, Russia, Iran, and their strategic responses to Western imperialism led by the United States. The conversation critiques Western interventionist policies, contrasts them with China’s non-interventionist approach, and analyzes how these differing strategies impact conflict zones like Palestine, Syria, and Xinjiang. The speakers explore the historical and cultural reasons behind China’s policy of non-interference, its long-term strategic vision, and the challenges posed by Western attempts to destabilize Eurasian powers.

A key theme is the evolving alliances among Eurasian powers, including the imminent military pact between Iran and Russia, and the comprehensive strategic partnership between China and Russia aimed at establishing a new security architecture to counter Western dominance. The dialogue also delves into regional issues such as the situation in Xinjiang, emphasizing China’s extensive surveillance and counter-terrorism efforts, and the geopolitical significance of mutual defense treaties connecting Russia, Iran, China, and North Korea.